Viliam comments on Is Spirituality Irrational? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Dagon 09 February 2016 06:28:30AM 6 points [-]

This feels a lot like a Bait and Switch to me. You haven't defined "Spirituality" well enough that I can tell what you're actually claiming, and I suspect as soon as I agree to any of your points you'll shout "a-ha!" and accuse me of some inconsistency.

I have heard nobody argue against enjoying music - I recommend it heartily. I do argue against making decisions based on incredibly wrong probability assignments (say, that there is a human-like judgement and experiences after death).

You seem to be saying that these two recommendations on my part are contradictory. I don't see it.

Comment author: Viliam 09 February 2016 09:21:56AM 5 points [-]

You can enjoy the feelings of spirituality, and refrain to base your decisions on them. Just like you can enjoy alcohol without making important decisions while drunk.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 09 February 2016 09:41:00PM 0 points [-]

I like the analogy of alcohol and decision-making! In addition to "Don't Drink and Drive," here's a new slogan "Don't Drink and Decide."

Comment author: Matthew_Opitz 11 February 2016 01:38:30PM 0 points [-]

I think that what Viliam was implying was, "Don't Spiritualize and Decide." Don't get drunk on the holy spirit and then make important decisions about what you believe or how you should live your life. I'm pretty sure Viliam was comparing spiritual experiences to alcohol. They might be fun, euphoric, and they might seem meaningful, but do they give good, reliable information about the world that you can use in use in repeated fashion for positive outcomes?

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 11 February 2016 07:10:05PM 0 points [-]

"Don't Spiritualize and Decide"

That would be a nice slogan as well :-)