Gleb_Tsipursky comments on Is Spirituality Irrational? - Less Wrong

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Comment author: lisper 09 February 2016 05:31:38PM *  1 point [-]

colors may not be "real", even if the experience of colors is.

Yes, that is the whole point. The experience of God may be real even if God isn't.

Also, the reason I didn't choose sheet music as my analogy is that the information content of sheet music is different from the actual music. To get from sheet music to music you have to add information (in the information-theoretical sense) like the waveforms of the individual instruments. That is not the case with the grooves on a record. They contain all of the same information as the audio waveform, but simply rendered in space rather than in time.

Comment author: Gleb_Tsipursky 09 February 2016 09:39:33PM 3 points [-]

I think the crux here is to avoid arguing against people's experiences when trying to raise the sanity waterline. If one argues against their deep experiences, there's a big danger of the backfire effect. If one acknowledges the experience of God as something real, but delineates that from proof of an actual God existing, this may go further with religious people.