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Comment author: OrphanWilde 18 February 2016 01:44:15PM 5 points [-]

You're downvoting an explanation of a downvote because you don't like the reasons given? So am I to interpret this to mean that next time I shouldn't give an explanation, and should just downvote the post, rather than giving anybody an opportunity to voice disagreement and debate the relative merits of a given post?

Nice community norms, there. Shame if something were to... happen to them.

Comment author: philh 18 February 2016 05:34:09PM 0 points [-]

Downvoted for proposing a norm that can be trivially abused.

(Not actually downvoting, just being snarky because I don't have time to unpack my objection right now. I don't necessarily think you're wrong, but norms are hard.)

Comment author: OrphanWilde 18 February 2016 06:04:40PM 0 points [-]

I'm not proposing a norm, I'm pointing out that this is the norm which is being enforced by this behavior.

Comment author: philh 19 February 2016 02:31:31PM *  0 points [-]

I interpreted you as proposing a norm of "don't downvote downvote-explanations".

If that's not what you're going for, fair enough, but my point still seems relevant: one behaviour encourages bad norms, but the opposite behaviour also encourages bad norms, so we need to be careful.

Comment author: OrphanWilde 19 February 2016 02:35:13PM 0 points [-]

Ah, yes, except I'd see it less as "proposing" and more "supporting a pre-existing norm".

Personally I don't think downvote explanations should be voted on at all, but that would be proposing a new norm.