RyanCarey comments on Thyroid Hormones, Chronic Fatigue and Fibromyalgia: A Hypothesis and a Proposed Experiment - Less Wrong
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Or you have a psychiatric, inflammatory, genetic or other cause of fatigue, pain or bowel disturbance. Yes, undiagnosed thyroid issues could cause this but why is this more likely than other possibilities?
This is weak evidence, where strong or at least more numerous arguments are needed.
Why? Why not an alternative cause, such as a combination of thousands of genes, mostly unrelated to the thyroid?
Not true. Plenty of people have and diagnose somatoform disorders.
But plenty is already known about the pathophysiology of bipolar disorder, depression and so on. e.g. depression seems likely to be caused by many thousands of genes (either that or some unidentified environmental stimulus, though we tend to have looked quote closely for those) (1)
Why not learn about the conditions and the evidence about their causes and then argue forward to some hypothesis rather than priveleging your thyroid-based hypothesis and trying to apply it to all available diseases?
At least an experiment is proposed here, but if you wanted to actually implement it, you would need a placebo control design, and you would approach disease interest groups or elsewhere for participants.
1) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22472876
Ryan, here's an argument that might make sense to you:
No-one in their right mind would tell a type 2 diabetic that they were fine because their insulin levels were normal.
There is a mysterious mechanism that interferes with the cellular action of insulin, even when the blood hormones are normal.
Imagine if that mechanism also interfered with the other endocrine hormones.
For one thing, it would explain why even diabetics in good control of their blood-sugar suffer terrible complications, which look awfully like the complications of hypothyroidism.
Wikipedia says that "elevated cholesterol levels, obesity, high blood pressure, and lack of regular exercise" are associated with the complications of diabetes. These four things are known consequences of hypothyroidism. So much so that elevated cholesterol was once a test for hypothyroidism.
Also, thank you for all your help. Your questions have clarified my thoughts immensely.
Ryan, caused by a combination of thousands of genes is exactly what I'm saying. Likely immune defence genes.
The shadows of the great killers of the past lie across our genes
Must lie across our genes! Defense against pathogens is the most important thing a human does. We have no other predators. The strongest selection pressures on us are the pathogens.
And nothing else can plausibly explain why our ancient master control system often just seems to go wrong for no reason. Except recent environmental change. I think it's likely both.
In fact the selection pressure on the endocrine system is likely so strong that it's got to be defences against recent diseases. That's why I'm thinking about tuberculosis and syphilis and the black death. Things that killed huge numbers in the last few hundred years. Which modern 'genetic' diseases correspond to which recent mass killer diseases?
That's got to be true even for the well understood forms of thyroiditis, Ord's and Hashimoto's and Graves'.