Transfuturist comments on Open Thread Feb 22 - Feb 28, 2016 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Transfuturist 22 February 2016 08:32:13PM *  0 points [-]

Are there any egoist arguments for (EA) aid in Africa? Does investment in Africa's stability and economic performance offer any instrumental benefit to a US citizen that does not care about the welfare of Africans terminally?

Comment author: ChristianKl 22 February 2016 09:19:14PM -2 points [-]

If you are talking about egoistic in the sense that you want as an US citizen outcomes that are generally good for US citizens:

Government-consultant Simon Anholt argues that if a country does a lot of good in the world that results in a positive brand in his TED talk. The better reputation than makes a lot of things easier.

You are treated better when you travel in foreign countries. A lot of positive economic trade happens on the back on good brand reputations. Good reputations reduce war and terrorism.

Spending money on EA interventions likely has better returns for US citizens than spending money on waging wars like the Iraq war on a per-dollar basis.

Comment author: Transfuturist 22 February 2016 11:06:58PM 0 points [-]

I'm curious why this was downvoted. The last statement, which has political context?

Comment author: Lumifer 23 February 2016 02:33:58AM 4 points [-]

I downvoted this because it was content-free bullshit. You asked :-/

Comment author: RowanE 24 February 2016 04:17:26PM 1 point [-]

I didn't downvote because it was already at minus one, but it seemed to apply mainly to government policies rather than private donations and be missing the point because of it, and "miss the point so as to bring up politics in your response" is not good.

Comment author: ChristianKl 22 February 2016 11:13:58PM -1 points [-]

I'm not exactly sure. My first guess would be karma-slash damage from other conversations.

Comment author: knb 23 February 2016 02:34:06AM 0 points [-]

There are definitely social benefits to being seen as generous. Also, a lot of infectious diseases originate in Africa, which might eventually spread into other countries if we don't help control them in Africa. Overall I doubt the selfish benefits are sufficient to make it a good deal for a typical person.