Vaniver comments on Attention! Financial scam targeting Less Wrong users - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Vaniver 06 March 2016 03:14:09PM 1 point [-]

You try to make the recipients of your messages feel special, yet you and your associate copy/paste the same messages to multiple people.

His first message to me involved asking where he could find his previous sent messages to copy-paste it to me also.

If your goal is to provide free education, you could have posted the first lesson publicly. If you don't want to be public with your name or with the name of your company, just create a pseudonymous account called e.g. "JumpingSquirrel2016" and refer to your company as e.g. "CompanyX". Even if your goal is to find two or three people to cooperate with privately in the future, you can still advertise your skills by posting one free lesson publicly.

Agreed that this is generally a good approach. Not sure if it applies to financial topics specifically, because 1) they're anti-inductive and 2) it's dangerous for people to be half-informed. Telling someone that there's money to be made exploiting inefficiencies in the penny stock market, but not what those inefficiencies are, could possibly lead to them losing a bunch of their money by making dumb bets that they think are smart.

Comment author: Viliam_Bur 07 March 2016 08:33:40AM 1 point [-]

So, Vaniver, are you personally going to cooperate with this guy in the "donating to MIRI through you" project? Could you please promise in advance to write an article about it when the financial transaction is over?

Comment author: Vaniver 07 March 2016 02:20:58PM *  1 point [-]

So, Vaniver, are you personally going to cooperate with this guy in the "donating to MIRI through you" project?

No, as detailed in the ancestral comment:

Whether or not this is within the letter of a match policy depends on the specific policy, but it's typically against the spirit and recommended against by Double the Donation. So even if there is no lurking chargeback, I would caution against this as burning the commons for short-term gain.

I did encourage him to reach out to MIRI and figure out what their fundraising plans are, and whether or not he can pledge matching funds for that. (It seems like MIRI is likely to continue their open-ended fundraisers, but we'll see.)

I am talking with him about his eSports gambling methodology, and trying to help him find an EA to work with on that. I would be happy to write an article about the results once there's enough info to do a retrospective.