xrchz comments on The Parable of the Dagger - Less Wrong

53 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 01 February 2008 08:53PM

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Comment author: Patrick_Robotham 17 October 2008 04:17:46PM 5 points [-]

Using the jester's reasoning, it's possible to make him believe that the earth is flat by writing down "either this inscription is true and the earth is flat, or this inscription is false and the earth is not flat, but not both" this makes an unflat earth logically impossible!

I wonder what this says about the law of the excluded middle, I guess that it slides if self reference is involved.

Comment author: xrchz 26 October 2009 08:29:42PM 6 points [-]

It's not the law of the excluded middle that's the problem, it's the jester's assumption that the entire statement "either this ..., or this..., but not both" is true. The jester reasons correctly under his assumptions, but fails to realize that he still has to discharge those assumptions before reaching reality.