SquirrelInHell comments on Abuse of Productivity Systems - Less Wrong

15 Post author: SquirrelInHell 27 March 2016 05:32AM

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Comment author: Elo 29 March 2016 03:33:07AM 0 points [-]

kinda... it's more covered by other people.

things like:

  • motivation-creation tools and time-management tools are two different kinds of tools made for solving two different kinds of problems; if you try to use time-management tools for handling lack of motivation, they will break

if you are talking about identity then it's more about keeping your identity small.

http://lesswrong.com/lw/jsh/strategic_choice_of_identity/

These particular identities were generated based on experiences.

they went: Motivation -> prolonged (or repeated) action -> redefine identity based on action that is being done -> act to take advantage of the identity and not the original motivation -> have no reason to actually do the thing other than a sense of "identity" -> fail.

(although it's possible to have not failed. a sense of identity can be very motivating to some people and in some circumstances.) Maybe SquirrelInHell can explain more)

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 29 March 2016 05:34:57AM *  0 points [-]

I'd need a more concrete question.

@Brillyant Which part of what Elo wrote is controversial? Also, my examples are fictional, so what sense of "truth" do you mean?

Comment author: Elo 29 March 2016 06:47:18AM *  0 points [-]

You asked a question generated from the examples; you said I gave "a very good summary", is there anything more you wanted to add to the summary?

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 29 March 2016 08:49:39AM *  0 points [-]

Err, now I don't know whose questions I'm answering, so I'll just focus on this part: "is there anything more you wanted to add to the summary?"

You already did a good job of pointing out where the mistakes were, so if I wanted to add something, it would be on the "fixing things" side.

My impulses tell me that besides the "big picture" description, it is useful to identify very specific thoughts or actions that could help, or serve as an early warning system.

E.g., to use patterns from Eliezer's sequences, that are well known to LW-ers:

This is the first time it has ever happened to her.

Response: Sally notices that she is confused, and immediately writes this in her surprise journal. Then she enters a "debug models/cognitive patterns" mode and brainstorms for 5 minutes.

(Note that the above is an example I picked for clarity, not because it's the best one in this case.)