Elo comments on Abuse of Productivity Systems - Less Wrong

15 Post author: SquirrelInHell 27 March 2016 05:32AM

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Comment author: SquirrelInHell 30 March 2016 02:18:49AM *  1 point [-]

Your [Elo's] answers seem definitive

There's no point in arguing about this, but let me just say that they didn't seem that way to me.

This, for instance, seems too simple:

In the continuation of that thread, I point out that:

So obviously there's a connection (motivation is necessary as "fuel" for productivity, and having productivity and successes makes it easier to get motivation), but those are two different things.

I don't think many people would miss this connection. But first, it was useful to split our mental buckets and define what concepts we are talking about, before talking about complicated synergies that occur between concepts.

In any case, you raise other interesting points, so let's move on to this:

The really interesting question here, I think, is how to create the "artificial" motivation

OK.

So now I'll try to give you a fun tool, that I personally find useful.

Please try it out and tell me what you think.

It is called the "find motivation" game.

It goes like this:

  1. Choose something you are not motivated to do (but would like to see it done somehow).

  2. Realize that for you to identify something you would like to see done, even though you have no motivation to do it, already requires you to have motivation on some level. Otherwise, you would never have raised this issue in step 1.

  3. Trace back until you find that motivation.

  4. Repeat the game until you run out of things to choose in step 1.

While this does not guarantee that you have enough motivation, it at least guarantees you have some.

In other words, I don't believe you can call any of your motivation "artificial" and be self-consistent.

Comment author: Elo 30 March 2016 05:57:38AM *  1 point [-]

Choose something you are not motivated to do.

should edit 1 to read:

  1. Choose something you want to do (or make yourself do) but are not motivated to do.