Lumifer comments on "3 Reasons It’s Irrational to Demand ‘Rationalism’ in Social Justice Activism" - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Lumifer 31 March 2016 03:03:31PM 5 points [-]

Yep, that's a problem and an additional problem is that this mechanism is often exploited by agitprop and, generally, dark arts at the social scale.

Nerds usually lack the social skills to follow this strategy

I don't think it has anything to do with nerds or social skills. If I had to come up with an expression for what prevents people from applying their abstract beliefs in practice, it would be the trite "common sense" (which, yes, I know, isn't exactly common).

Essentially it's the matter of being able to recognize consequences when they appear in front of your eyes. Most people, thankfully, require a large amount of pushing and shoving to make the transition from "Ethnicity X is bad" to "We will go and set fire to our neighbour's house and throw stones at his children". It's not that avoiding that transition is a social skill, it's more that watching a house burn and children cry has direct emotional impact that you need very high levels of ideological belief to override.

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Comment author: Lumifer 01 April 2016 02:44:45PM 1 point [-]

I believe you meant

Your belief is mistaken.

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Comment author: Lumifer 02 April 2016 12:31:05AM 0 points [-]

In that case, you appear to have no idea how most people behave.

I'll take your opinion under consideration.

Well, not really.

the Illiad

Fiction.

Arabian knights

Ain't no such thing.

the bahavior of modern gangs

And what percentage of modern society is a gang member?

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Comment author: Lumifer 02 April 2016 03:11:09AM *  0 points [-]

Yes, and look at the implicit morals that the fiction assumes.

Yes, and..?

You didn't have to go that far back. Pretty much most WW2 fiction books assume the peak of morality is to kill as many Germans as possible. So?

If you restrict to the ghetto classes.

Do rednecks qualify? What about white trash? X-) Or let's go global. Do you think Chinese peasants are particularly sophisticated people? India's slum dwellers?

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Comment author: Lumifer 02 April 2016 04:35:29AM -1 points [-]

tries to include at least one "good German".

And do you believe that in Iliad all Trojans are fully bad guys and gals..?

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