Lamp comments on Ultimate List of Irrational Nonsense - Less Wrong

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Comment author: AlwaysUnite 30 March 2016 09:28:25PM 1 point [-]

There are several conspiracy theories about the airport actually. Apparently there are storage bunkers below the main buildings used for "unsavory business". The MKULTRA-Jonestown conspiracy theory says that MKULTRA created the Jonestown cult if I remember correctly :)

Actually I am a bit surprised, the post got two downvotes already. I was under the impression that LW would appreciate it given it being a site about rationality and all.. I've been reading LW for quite some time but I hadn't actually posted before, did I do something horribly wrong or anything?

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Comment author: AlwaysUnite 31 March 2016 05:30:34AM -1 points [-]

Fair criticism, indeed the list has been inclusive on some of the more philosophical ideas. Obviously I hold that some scientific ideas could be mistaken. However "alternative" medicine cannot be established using the scientific method, how is that wrong to include as irrational? Out of a list of 1229 ideas that is probably one of the most definite nonsense ideas included.

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Comment author: AlwaysUnite 31 March 2016 06:05:16AM 0 points [-]

Alternative medicine is any practice that is put forward as having the healing effects of medicine, but does not originate from evidence gathered using the scientific method. So e.g. candling, homeopathy, Whole Body Vibration Training, acupuncture, etc. Given that either the effect sizes of these methods are negligible or they don't work at all, these practices are irrational from both the epistemic and the instrumental perspective. The explanation of the assertion might be a bit circular since any "alternative" medicine that works would simply be medicine. Well I can't do anything about that.

Comment author: Lumifer 31 March 2016 02:31:03PM 2 points [-]

Alternative medicine is any practice that is put forward as having the healing effects of medicine, but does not originate from evidence gathered using the scientific method.

LOL. That's pretty much most of contemporary Western medicine. Recall that "evidence-based medicine" is a relatively recent notion and still resisted by a lot of doctors.

Comment author: AlwaysUnite 02 April 2016 08:21:18PM -1 points [-]

Hahaha thanks for the laugh, this entire posts could use some.

Comment author: AlwaysUnite 31 March 2016 06:08:07AM -1 points [-]

Unless of course the goal is to just feel happy about some form of quackery, in which case it would be instrumentally rational of course.

Comment author: Lumifer 31 March 2016 02:29:08PM 2 points [-]

However "alternative" medicine cannot be established using the scientific method

How do you know that? "Hasn't been" is not the same thing as "cannot be".

Comment author: Lamp2 08 April 2016 02:12:27AM 0 points [-]

However "alternative" medicine cannot be established using the scientific method,

Care to explain what you mean by that assertion. You might want to start by defining what you mean by "alternative medicine".