Lumifer comments on Open Thread April 11 - April 17, 2016 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: NancyLebovitz 12 April 2016 03:20:02PM -2 points [-]

Rust, a video game, has a veil of ignorance

After you've had a character for a while, gender is imposed randomly and permanently.

Comment author: Lumifer 12 April 2016 05:04:02PM *  10 points [-]

While I don't play Rust, my impression is that the devs are being dicks (heh) for what looks to be ideological reasons. They say:

"Technically nothing has changed, since half the population was already living with those feelings. The only difference is that whether you feel like this is now decided by your SteamID instead of your real life gender."

They are wrong, of course, what changed was that there was no choice possible and now there is a choice (which they dangle in front of you and then deny to you).

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 12 April 2016 07:31:07PM 2 points [-]

Maybe they should offer an expensive, inconvenient way of changing gender.

Comment author: Lumifer 12 April 2016 07:54:48PM *  5 points [-]

Ah, a new monetization technique :-)

Well, not really new. A lot of MMORGS will allow extensive plastic surgery for your character, often once for free and then for a fee.

An interesting side-note is that some (typically Asian) games have gender-locked classes. There is usually some whining about it, but not that much.

Comment author: Dagon 12 April 2016 10:09:28PM 0 points [-]

I can imagine the whining, though, if there were gender choice but your account was locked to a random class.

Comment author: Lumifer 12 April 2016 11:29:20PM *  6 points [-]

I think the whining would be only moderate because most people will say WTF, wonder at the stupidity of the devs, and happily go play something else X-)

Comment author: Viliam 13 April 2016 07:24:36AM 2 points [-]

Such as creating new Steam accounts and buying the game repeatedly, until you get the desired outcome?

Oh, maybe this was the strategy from the beginning.

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Comment author: Sly 13 April 2016 08:18:12AM *  3 points [-]

I think you misunderstood their comment. They aren't raging proponents of "transgenderism" whatever you seem to think that means.

They were saying that women (50% of the population) were being forced to play as guys when they played Rust.

Comment author: Lumifer 13 April 2016 01:57:23AM *  3 points [-]

I don't think there is that implication here.

The funny thing is looking at the responsible party. Just who is responsible for releasing a game where your character could only be male and no female option was available?

Why, I think the devs are women-haters! X-)

Comment author: [deleted] 27 April 2016 06:11:23AM *  0 points [-]

Not to mention that even the most rabid proponents of "transgenderism" claim that it's prevalence is anywhere near 50%.

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