Bobertron comments on Open Thread May 2 - May 8, 2016 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Viliam 06 May 2016 12:15:53PM 5 points [-]

Probably saying the obvious, but anyway:

What is the advantage of nice communication in a rationalist forum? Isn't the content of the message the only important thing?

Imagine a situation where many people, even highly intelligent, make the same mistake talking about some topic, because... well, I guess I shouldn't have to explain on this website what "cognitive bias" means... everyone here has read the Sequences, right? ;)

But one person happens to be a domain expert in an unusual domain, or happened to talk with a domain expert, or happened to read a book by a domain expert... and something clicked and they realized the mistake.

I think that at this moment the communication style on the website has a big impact on whether the person will come and share their insight with the rest of the website. Because it predicts the response they get. On a forum with a "snarky" debating culture, the predictable reaction is everyone making fun and not even considering the issue seriously, because that's simply how the debate is done there. Of course, predicting this reaction, the person is more likely to just avoid the whole topic, and discuss something else.

Of course -- yes, I can already predict the reactions this comment will inevitably get -- this has to be balanced against people saying stupid things, etc. Of course. I know already, okay? Thanks.

Comment author: Bobertron 07 May 2016 08:57:08PM 3 points [-]
Comment author: Viliam 09 May 2016 09:09:47AM *  4 points [-]

Yep. I'll try to make a short summary of some arguments in the article and comments:

Why people want to be mean:

  • it signals strength (in the ancient environment it shows you are not afraid of being hit in return);
  • it signals intellectual superiority e.g. in the form of sarcasm;
  • if you already have a reputation, you can win debates quickly;
  • it helps you put distance towards people you want to avoid.

What are the negative impacts of meanness:

  • you may be wrong, but you have already proposed a solution ("the other person is stupid");
  • if there is a misunderstanding, hostile reaction lowers the chance of explaining or increases the time needed, compared with a polite request for clarification;
  • people will different experience will seem especially wrong to you, so this effect will be even stronger there;
  • you spread bad mood, which harms curiosity and exploration;
  • you signal that you are bad at cooperation, bad at managing your emotions, not caring about other people;
  • people stop listening to you and start avoiding you;
  • you lose possible allies.