ArisKatsaris comments on Disguised Queries - Less Wrong

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Comment author: wedrifid 17 December 2011 04:24:16PM *  1 point [-]

Personally I break some of them more often than I'd like

It's 6, isn't it! (Dexter has that problem too - I recommend following his example and at least chanelling it into vigilantism.)

Comment author: TheOtherDave 17 December 2011 04:47:10PM 1 point [-]

Well, I kill all the time... most people I know do.

But if we adopt the conventional practice of translating "lo tirtzoch" as "don't murder", and further adopt the conventional practice of not labeling killings we're morally OK with as "murder", then I squeak by here as well... I'm basically OK with all the killing I've done.

I've never actually watched Dexter, but I gather it's about someone compelled to murder people who chooses to murder only people where the world is improved by their death? Hrm. I'm not sure I agree.

Certainly, if I'm going to murder someone, it should be the least valuable person I can find. Which might turn out to be myself. The question for me is how reliable my judgment is on the matter. If I'm not a reliable judge, I should recuse myself from judgement.

Perhaps I should assemble a committee to decide on my victims.

Comment author: ArisKatsaris 17 December 2011 05:17:35PM 0 points [-]

But if we adopt the conventional practice of translating "lo tirtzoch" as "don't murder", and further adopt the conventional practice of not labeling killings we're morally OK with as "murder", then I squeak by here as well...

I think the general idea is that by "murder" the concept of 'do not kill people without it being prescribed by the law' is meant -- with the rest of Mosaic law indicating in which cases it was okay to kill people nonetheless.

So killing insects doesn't count (because they're not people), nor being a state executioner counts (because it's prescribed by the law).

Comment author: TheOtherDave 17 December 2011 05:24:12PM 0 points [-]

Yeah, you're right. I was being snarky in the general direction of my Yeshiva upbringing, at the expense of accuracy.