Fluttershy comments on Open thread, Jun. 13 - Jun. 19, 2016 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Ixiel 13 June 2016 10:28:26AM *  3 points [-]

Overcoming Eager Evidence

Does anyone know any good way to make a point that one believes is true on its own merits but clearly benefits the speaker or is easier for the speaker?

Suppose a poor person is saying we should all give more money to poor people, are there ways to mitigate the effect of “You're only saying that to benefit yourself” beyond either finding someone else without that perceived (and likely actual, but maybe less than perceived) bias or just taking the hit and having a strong enough case to overwhelm that factor?

Comment author: Fluttershy 13 June 2016 08:35:53PM 2 points [-]

I've noticed that my System 1 automatically discounts arguments made for points that benefit the speaker even more when the speaker sounds either prideful, or like they're trying to grab status that isn't due to them, than when the speaker sounds humble.

I've also noticed that my System 1 has stopped liking the idea of donating to certain areas of EA quite as much after people who exclusively champion those causes have somehow been abrasive during a conversation I've listened to.

Comment author: Ixiel 13 June 2016 10:44:18PM 1 point [-]

This is exactly the kind of thing I meant. Thank you for the reply!