SquirrelInHell comments on Secret Rationality Base in Europe - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ChristianKl 17 June 2016 01:03:32PM *  3 points [-]

Would you like the European rationality community efforts to also include some research topics (e.g. AI), or to focus on the community itself and leave the research to other organisations?

Community and organisation are two different things. A community by it's nature contains people from different organisations.

As such it's not something that's usually decided in a top-down way.

The Effective Altruism Foundation moved their main office to Berlin.
We have an existing base with regular LW events in Berlin.
Berlin has a lot of jobs for programmers.
Berlin is cheap.

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 17 June 2016 03:17:06PM 0 points [-]

Community and organisation are two different things. A community by it's nature contains people from different organisations.

Fair enough, the question was unclear. I've changed it to (I hope) better reflect what I wanted to ask: Would you like the European rationality community efforts to be centered around some particular research topics (e.g. AI)?

As such it's not something that's usually decided in a top-down way.

E.g. what initially set events in motion in Berkeley seems to have been mostly MIRI-related research, not explicit community building. And it seems very possible to choose this kind of focus top-down.

Comment author: Benito 17 June 2016 05:39:21PM 0 points [-]

Btw I think the consequentialist version of your question is "What happens if the EU rationality community centres its efforts around a research topic (with the question being open to different consequences from different topics)".

Comment author: SquirrelInHell 18 June 2016 10:23:14PM 0 points [-]

Haha, thanks a lot, indeed the questions themselves can be phrased in a way that strongly suggests a consequentialist answer :) I'll use this a lot for now on :)

Comment author: ChristianKl 17 June 2016 03:41:32PM *  0 points [-]

E.g. what initially set events in motion in Berkeley seems to have been mostly MIRI-related research, not explicit community building.

There are many different reasons for a computer programmer who's interested in rationality to move to Berkeley besides MIRI-related research. The good jobs for computer programmers are in Silicon Valley and so computer programmers migrate there.

And it seems very possible to choose this kind of focus top-down.

If you have enough money than you can do everything top-down. If I understand right than MIRI had over a longer time >500,000/per year in donations. Do you think there somebody who would want to invest that kind of money into building a European LW community?