WalterL comments on Two kinds of Expectations, *one* of which is helpful for rational thinking - Less Wrong

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Comment author: WalterL 21 June 2016 06:47:20PM 3 points [-]

Blink

This post is about half and half basic rationality and dating commands. I'll take them separately.

Rationality:

Yeah, guesses at future states and orders given to others are different. I get that. Its just...everyone gets that. The same lady who erupts in volcanic rage if you communicate with her boss manages to find her keys in the morning. She seems to know that her demand that all communication go through her and her prediction as to where her keys will be are quantitatively different. She would never get her reactions confused between the two.

I mean, I guess it is a noble thing to point out, but this is Lesswrong. We grok the whole making beliefs pay rent thing, or if we don't, we've got a thing to read about it.

2: Kids Today!

Like, I get the "yay scolding" impulse. Giving orders is fun. But, again, this is Lesswrong. So we look at past efforts to guess how well stuff will go. Has telling youths how to do dating ever worked? Like, ever? I mean, maybe you are Dear Abby in your day job, but the odds are pretty good that couples and protocouples aren't breaking down your door to get advice on swiping right. They work that stuff out somehow, or at least enough of them do.

Your example at the end is a pretty good way to some this thing up. Soccer doesn't work that way. You don't spend any energy getting ready to blame the world for not respecting your wishes. You barely even anticipate future states, mostly limited to switching between a number of cached patterns. Instead, you perform the actions that you have trained to perform, which are the actions that your coach told you to learn. It is a lot of fun, in a mindless, animal way.

Comment author: ChristianKl 25 June 2016 06:12:33PM 1 point [-]

Has telling youths how to do dating ever worked?

Many young people read advice and try to apply it when they are faced with a high stakes situations and don't want to screw up.

PUA advice is one example.

I think the scenario of a young aspriring rationalist who's unhappy with his dating life or lack thereof reading LW and trying to implement advice isn't farfetched.