ChristianKl comments on Open thread, June 27 - July 3, 2016 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ChristianKl 27 June 2016 02:54:27PM -1 points [-]

Why do you focus on the suggestions that are also made elsewhere instead of what's unique in the King, Warrior, Magician, Lover framework?

Comment author: Elo 27 June 2016 10:43:14PM -2 points [-]

The model is meaningless beyond what it suggests you do. If I were to spend a long time understanding the whole damn model I could possibly end up generating my own predictive set of ideas from that model. Because I have not spent that time - it's easier for me to just look at the (already generated) outputs of the model and comment on the results. I am not 100% sure that all those suggestions fit within the model itself but generally if the site ends in those kinds of suggestions, as above:

Is there more useful signal than noise here? It depends on who you are, where you are, and how good you are at working that out for yourself.

Comment author: ChristianKl 28 June 2016 01:17:46PM 0 points [-]

No, if you ignore the model you ignore the reason of why people recommend King, Warrior, Magician, Lover. I don't think anybody who recommended that book to me did so, because of a shallow list of recommendations that fits into a few bullet points.

This is similar how taking a list of bulletpoints about CFAR knowledge doesn't compare to evaluating the value that a CFAR workshop provides to it's attendies.

Because I have not spent that time - it's easier for me to just look at the (already generated) outputs of the model and comment on the results.

There's no value in forming a judgement of a model that one doesn't understand like this by a shallow look at it.

There plenty of shallow personal development literature out there that people who like to consume listicles but I haven't heared any recommendations for this book from that audience but mostly from people who think deeper and engage deeply with it.

Comment author: Elo 28 June 2016 11:15:08PM -2 points [-]

I will be delighted to hear your review when you get around to writing it up.

Comment author: ChristianKl 29 June 2016 10:01:14AM 0 points [-]

My current state is that I haven't read the full book or used the ideas in my life but I know multiple people who do, who value the ideas highly and who are generally good sources of personal development ideas.