ChristianKl comments on Open thread, June 27 - July 3, 2016 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Daniel_Burfoot 29 June 2016 01:22:44PM *  4 points [-]

This comment got 6+ responses, but none that actually attempted to answer the question. My goal of Socratically prompting contrarian thinking, without being explicitly contrarian myself, apparently failed. So here is my version:

  • Most startups are gimmicky and derivative, even or especially the ones that get funded.
  • Working for a startup is like buying a lottery ticket: a small chance of a big payoff. But since humans are by nature risk-averse, this is a bad strategy from a utility standpoint.
  • Startups typically do not create new technology; instead they create new technology-dependent business models.
  • Even if startups are a good idea in theory, currently they are massively overhyped, so on the margin people should be encouraged to avoid them.
  • Early startup employees (not founders) don't make more than large company employees.
  • The vast majority of value from startups comes from the top 1% of firms, like Facebook, Amazon, Google, Microsoft, and Apple. All of those firms were founded by young white males in their early 20s. VCs are driven by the goal of funding the next Facebook, and they know about the demographic skew, even if they don't talk about it. So if you don't fit the profile of a megahit founder, you probably won't get much attention from the VC world.
  • There is a group of people (called VCs) whose livelihood depends on having a supply of bright young people who want to jump into the startup world. These people act as professional activists in favor of startup culture. This would be fine, except there is no countervailing force of professional critics. This creates a bias in our collective evaluation of the culture.
Comment author: ChristianKl 30 June 2016 08:51:49AM 1 point [-]

This comment got 6+ responses, but none that actually attempted to answer the question.

Likely because the answers called for a ITT but provided no questions for the ITT.

Startups typically do not create new technology; instead they create new technology-dependent business models.

There is a group of people (called VCs) whose livelihood depends on having a supply of bright young people who want to jump into the startup world. These people act as professional activists in favor of startup culture. This would be fine, except there is no countervailing force of professional critics. This creates a bias in our collective evaluation of the culture.

Both of those seem to me like failing the Intellectual Turing Test. I would have a hard time thinking that the average person who works at a big company would make those arguments.