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Comment author: James_Miller 03 July 2016 09:04:59PM *  0 points [-]

Excellent. My view is that the future is either human extinction or unpredictable.

Comment author: turchin 03 July 2016 09:08:22PM 1 point [-]

I used to say "extinction or immortality", where under "immortality" I mean galactic supercivilisation dwelled by immortal posthumans

Comment author: James_Miller 03 July 2016 09:41:43PM 1 point [-]

In attempting to get people to sign up for cryonics I have learned that most people don't want to live for a very long time.

Comment author: turchin 03 July 2016 09:48:03PM *  1 point [-]

Yes ... (( Ben Goertzel suggested another term: "potentially indefinite life extension". It is almost the same as immortality, but people may feel freedom on ontological level with it.

Nobody wants to be trapped forever in unpleasant conditions, and to become immortal is the first step to such situation )) So we should address this concern.

Comment author: qmotus 05 July 2016 08:50:36AM 0 points [-]

I wouldn't call cryonics life extension; sounds more like resurrection to me. And, well, "potentially indefinite life extension" after that, sure.

Comment author: turchin 05 July 2016 10:28:51AM 0 points [-]

Another good wording is "respawning", which came from computer games, and means ability of a character to appear again, something like resurrection.

Comment author: MrMind 04 July 2016 07:23:43AM *  0 points [-]

Is that P(x| NOT human extinction) = ?? or just P(NOT human extinction) = ??
Because the second case seems contradictory to me.

Comment author: James_Miller 04 July 2016 04:49:40PM 0 points [-]

Unpredictability conditional on NOT human extinction.