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Comment author: turchin 13 September 2016 08:22:51AM 0 points [-]

If we adopt criteria of identity based of same location, next-moment-of-me will be not me, as I move, Earth move etc. It results in situation where I will die every millisecond.

We could also imagine situation where Omega put my copy in my location, but instantly moves me to the next room.

Comment author: mwengler 11 January 2017 03:52:43PM 0 points [-]

Clearly we can differentiate between different-location-same-time and different-location-different-time. Two things in different-location-same-time are different things. Two things different-location-different-time may be same thing or may be different thing depending on the path through time. Your mathematical style of abstraction in thinking about identity will only be useful at explaining the real world if it is matched to real world processes, and does not ignore important real world insights.

Comment author: turchin 11 January 2017 05:24:07PM 0 points [-]

In fact my goal was to get rid of mathematical definitions of identity and move to instrumental definition. That is the definition of identity depends of the goal I am solving and identity itself is not a thing that actually exists but a supportive term. That is why we have problems this it.

Basically, there is two types of question where we need notion of "identity":

1) What I will experience in the next moment? (first-eye view) 2) Is it the same person? (third-eye view)