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To me that seems like a misapplication. The politician who makes sure that his friends get forward can be at stage 3 without being idealistic.
A politician who is in a party because they want to advance capitalism or because they want to advance liberalism would likely be in stage 4 because their loyality is to the institution and not to people.
I have an impression of some politician who operate at the city level in Berlin that doesn't come through the media. I would categories those people mostly as stage 3 or stage 4.
How would you characterize yourself in Kagan's framework?
I'm not going to argue about this - as I said, I think the Kegan's model by itself is underspecified, and you can apply it in various ways to the same situation. Quite possible your application to politics makes more sense.
If you are asking this question, you don't understand some critical things. Never ask this question.
That might very well be true. I have invested a bit more thought into the Spiral Dynamics model of developmental psychology and extrpolate on that basis with the information that Wikipedia provides about Kegan's model.
But when it comes to polticians Wikipedia lists "Culture of mutuality. Mutually reciprocal one-to-one relationships." for stage 3 and "Culture of identity or self-authorship (in love or work). Typically: group involvement in career, admission to public arena." for stage 4. Being driven by wanting to increase the wellness of people in general seems to fall more into stage 4 than in stage 3.