TheAncientGeek comments on Open Thread, Aug 29. - Sept 5. 2016 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: reguru 08 September 2016 03:29:36PM *  0 points [-]

There seems to be quite some denial on LW then regarding the topic. I don't understand why, if what you are saying is true.

"Hey, losers! Rationality is overrated because you confuse the map with the territory, you aren't aware of your own thoughts and don't distinguish them from reality, and you're 100% confident you're right and therefore can't change your minds!".

That's a straw man argument, as far as I remember, I never said that. Personally, it seems to me as "the map is not the territory" is one of the maps which some, I am not saying you or anyone else, might think is the territory. This is only speculation.

So you do agree with the video, who else?

If for example, you were the person who was attached to the map being the territory, or not aware of it, and the argument was not a straw man.

Of course, you don't have to agree with a certain method of delivery, like the straw man.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 13 September 2016 10:58:15AM 1 point [-]

That's a straw man argument, as far as I remember, I never said that. Personally, it seems to me as "the map is not the territory" is one of the maps which some, I am not saying you or anyone else, might think is the territory. T

Consider distinguishing between "the map is the territory" and "the map is an accurate representation of the territory".

Comment author: reguru 13 September 2016 11:31:46AM 0 points [-]

Regardless how accurate or inaccurate a map is, it is still a map. But some maps are more or less accurate over other maps. That's fine. That's human projections.

I argue that the territory is arational, which means any representation in relation to the territory is all the same.

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 13 September 2016 12:19:49PM 1 point [-]

The second sentence contradicts the first.