James_Miller comments on [Link] My Interview with Dilbert creator Scott Adams - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Daniel_Burfoot 14 September 2016 01:07:44PM *  8 points [-]

Note that Adams is using persuasion tactics in the interview itself. The most obvious trick is that he describes himself as being objective (he doesn't care about Trump vs Clinton) and altruistic (because he's wealthy and older), making it more likely for us to believe the other things he has to say.

My guess is that Adams is hoping that Trump wins the election, because he will then write a book about persuasion and how Trump's persuasion skills helped him win. He already has a lot of this material on his blog. In that scenario he can capitalize on his correct prediction, which seemed radical at the time, to generate a lot of publicity for the book. Persuasion is a topic of perennial interest, and Adams is a skilled expositor. So there's a good chance that a Trump win will mean a multi-million dollar payoff for Adams.

I actually like Adams and think he's a smart guy, but I doubt he's much more altruistic and objective than everyone else. ;-)

Comment author: James_Miller 14 September 2016 03:20:51PM 3 points [-]

I agree with your first paragraph, but Adams has described how his Trump writing has decimated his ability to earn money as a public speaker because people who hire such speakers want to avoid controversy. Adams appearing on the podcast of an obscure college professor was an act of altruism.

Comment author: hairyfigment 15 September 2016 04:55:08PM 2 points [-]

So you think he assigns a lower probability to Trump winning than someone unfamiliar with his argument might suppose? In theory he might have lost more than 2mill * 0.38 = 760000, but the higher that probability goes the worse your argument sounds.

Comment author: James_Miller 16 September 2016 02:40:54AM 3 points [-]

No, I think Adams assigns a higher probability to Trump winning than most people do. I think Adams accepted this theory on Trump would cost him money.

Comment author: buybuydandavis 18 September 2016 10:01:04PM 1 point [-]

Can't remember where I saw it, but I think Adams is trying to transition his career to "trusted expert".

He's willing to take the financial hit to make the transition.

Comment author: James_Miller 18 September 2016 11:41:27PM 1 point [-]

Yes

Comment author: ChristianKl 18 September 2016 10:07:15PM 0 points [-]

I think Adams accepted this theory on Trump would cost him money.

Why do you think it costs him money? Adam is a blogger. He get's money from doing things that grab attention.

Comment author: James_Miller 18 September 2016 11:40:56PM 2 points [-]

I think he made far more from giving corporate speeches (based on his Dilbert fame) than he ever will from blogging. Adams has said that his association with Trump has destroyed his speech making side-business.

Comment author: ChristianKl 19 September 2016 08:38:27AM 1 point [-]

He did make money from giving corporate speeches based on Dilbert fame but he could charge more money if he's the guy who is understands persuasion really well and if good at objectively looking and issues and gives corporate speeches based on that angle than he could make if he makes money based on his Dilbert frame.

Nassim Taleb layed out in anti-fragile that moves making moves that draw controversy is an effective strategy as a public intellectual. Ryan Holiday describes in "Trust Me I'm lying" as well that this is an effective strategy for people wanting to be public intellecutals.

I think Adam's likely read both Nassim Taleb and Ryan Holiday and made a conscious choice to follow that playbook. It might have turned out to be an ineffective move in reality because it turns out that giving speeches as "the guy behind Dilbert" isn't anti-fragile but it still rather looks like a deliberate move.

Comment author: Sly 14 September 2016 09:42:18PM *  2 points [-]

Adams did say that, but I agree with Daniel that he benefits hugely if Trump wins. Claims and reality are often different, especially when you consider that Adams is often transparently using his techniques in his writing.