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Comment author: Brillyant 13 October 2016 06:17:25PM *  -2 points [-]

There are smart people, there are stupid people, and the correlation to some outwardly visible feature like the colour of the skin doesn't matter much.

How do you mean? You're saying you believe it to be true that, generally, people with black skin color are more likely to have a significantly lower IQ than people with white skin color... And you believe that IQ is correlated with life outcomes. How can this not matter much?

I find affirmative action counter-productive.

I also have the sense this may be true in many instances. The theory seems solid, but I'm not sure it works as intended in practice.

For another example, I don't believe the claims that inner-city schools (read: black) lag behind suburban schools (read: not black) because of lack of funding or because of surrounding poverty.

Why do they lag behind? Is it because of the IQ difference you believe exists between black and whites?

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You say you're not a white nationalist...I'm curious about your reaction to those who are? In regard to segregation, for instance... You say you don't think the Europeans should re-colonise Africa for the natives' own good—Why not?

Comment author: ChristianKl 13 October 2016 07:03:42PM 0 points [-]

Is it because of the IQ difference you believe exists between black and whites?

Lumifer likely believes that IQ predicts school performance and there are many studies that back this claim. He quite specifically said that you can calculate outcomes.

However not all white/black people are the same. Statements about the average IQ are statements about averages. Not all white have the same IQ and not all black people have the same IQ. Low IQ white people have low IQ children.

In Germany a white child named "Kevin" is likely to have a lower IQ than a child named "Jakob" and if you run your implicit bias tests you find that there's bias against the child named "Kevin".