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Comment author: Brillyant 13 October 2016 08:57:20PM -1 points [-]

Under a common definition of racism as belief in meaningful differences between races, these views are racism. So?

I mean "racism" in a way that is significantly consequential for those who are discriminated against. An active racism.

If there truly are meaningful genetic differences between races, then so be it. But that seems to be the justification for the portion of "white supremacist" Trump supporters I mentioned above. It's an angry racism that seems likely to be problematic.

Anyway, thanks for your thoughts.

Comment author: chron 13 October 2016 11:02:36PM *  1 point [-]

If there truly are meaningful genetic differences between races, then so be it. But that seems to be the justification for the portion of "white supremacist" Trump supporters I mentioned above. It's an angry racism that seems likely to be problematic.

Well, as compared the hypothetical problems this "racism" or "white supremacism" might supposedly cause in the future; the type of "police and all whites are racist" anti-racism you are promoting is having problematic consequences right now, in the form of anti-police and generally anti-white rioting by blacks in places like Ferguson, Baltimore, Charlotte, etc. Not to mention that we'll never solve the problem of large amount of black-on-black crime if we can't admit it's cause.

Comment author: Lumifer 14 October 2016 02:28:44PM 0 points [-]

white supremacism

That's actually Sino-Judaic supremacism, you white gweilo untermenschen!

Comment author: Brillyant 14 October 2016 12:37:47AM -1 points [-]

Not to mention that we'll never solve the problem of large amount of black-on-black crime if we can't admit it's cause.

What is it's cause in your view? How do we solve it?

Comment author: chron 14 October 2016 12:40:40AM 1 point [-]

What is it's cause in your view?

A combination of low IQ and the fact the the political will to properly police black neighborhoods doesn't exist due to the type of "anti-racism" you support.

Comment author: Brillyant 14 October 2016 01:17:56AM -1 points [-]

low IQ

How does low IQ directly cause crime?

properly police black neighborhoods

What does this entail?

Comment author: waveman 14 October 2016 03:28:42AM 1 point [-]

How does low IQ directly cause crime?

See any criminology textbook. Low IQ is a strong predictor of criminal behavior.

Why? This is more specuative

  1. Inability to forsee consequences of actions.

  2. Opportunity cost is lower - if you have a good chance to enjoy a good income through talent and hard work, then the alternative is less appealing.

  3. Low IQ people are more likely to be at Kegan Development Level 2, which impairs empathy.