siIver comments on Open thread, Oct. 10 - Oct. 16, 2016 - Less Wrong

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Comment author: siIver 11 October 2016 03:50:10PM *  0 points [-]

100% doesn't work because then you starve. If I re-formulate your question to "is there any rebuttal to why we don't donate way more to charity than we currently do" then the answer depends on your belief system. If you are utilitarian, the answer is definitive no. You should spend way more on charity.

Comment author: username2 11 October 2016 07:28:09PM *  1 point [-]

Nonsense. I believe my life and the lives of people close to me are more important than someone starving in a place whose name I can't pronounce. I just don't assign the same weight to all people. That is perfectly consistent with utilitarianism.

Comment author: siIver 11 October 2016 07:40:04PM *  0 points [-]

Er... no. Utilitarianism prohibits that exact thing by design. That's one of its most important aspects.

Read the definition. This is unambiguous.

Comment author: username2 11 October 2016 08:45:03PM 3 points [-]

"Utilitarianism is a theory in normative ethics holding that the best moral action is the one that maximizes utility." -Wikipedia

The very next sentence starts with "Utility is defined in various ways..." It is entirely possible for there to be utility functions that treat sentient beings differently. John Stuart Mill may have phrased it as "the greatest good for the greatest number" but the clutch is in the word "good" which is left undefined. This is as opposed to, say, virtue ethics which doesn't care per se about the consequences of actions.

Comment author: Good_Burning_Plastic 12 October 2016 01:09:01PM 0 points [-]

If I re-formulate your question to "is there any rebuttal to why we don't donate way more to charity than we currently do" then the answer depends on your belief system.

(And also on how much money you currently donate to charity.)