Liron comments on The Second Law of Thermodynamics, and Engines of Cognition - Less Wrong

58 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 27 February 2008 12:48AM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (65)

Sort By: Old

You are viewing a single comment's thread. Show more comments above.

Comment author: SilasBarta 11 March 2010 03:55:08PM 1 point [-]

For a gas in a mass-sealed container, average vx, vy, vz are also zero, just as in the shaft, so this trivially matches.

You're correct that I should have said speeds, and I should have mentioned that the shaft requires a special shape/density distribution, but the point stands: The molecular property distribution doesn't by itself tell you how cold something is, or how much energy can be extracted -- it's also relevant how its degrees of freedom are constrained, which shows how your knowledge of (mutual information with) the system matters.

Comment author: Liron 11 June 2010 02:32:42AM 0 points [-]

It's a really great point; thank you.