arundelo comments on Dissolving the Question - Less Wrong

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Comment author: ata 20 May 2010 08:17:47AM 22 points [-]

As usual, this is better settled by experiment than by "I just know". My favourite method is holding my nose and seeing if I can still breathe through it. Every time I've tried this while dreaming, I've still been able to breathe, and, unsurprisingly, so far I've never been able to while awake. So if I try that, then whichever way it goes, it's pretty strong evidence. There — now it's science and there's no need to assume "I feel that I know I'm awake" implies "I'm awake".

Of course, if you're the sort of person who never thinks to question your wakefulness while dreaming, then the fact that you've thought of the question at all is good evidence that you're awake. But you need a better experiment than that if you also want to be able to get the right answer while you actually are dreaming.

[Apologies if replying to super-old comments is frowned upon. I'm reading the whole blog from the beginning and occasionally finding that I have things to say.]

Comment author: bigjeff5 01 February 2011 02:02:23AM *  0 points [-]

My test is even easier - I rarely remember dreaming. It's very similar to just blacking out. I lay down, fall asleep, and then 6-7 hours have gone by and I'm being awoken by my alarm clock. I sometimes remember parts of a particularly disturbing dream but they don't have any detail after I wake up, and within hours it is almost completely gone. In these cases it may feel like a half hour or so has passed.

I had a dream of that type a few days ago, and other than the impression that it was disturbing I can't remember a single thing about it. Nothing.

Stuff that happens when I'm awake, though, I remember very well.

Comment author: arundelo 01 February 2011 04:26:39AM 1 point [-]

So if you do have trouble telling dream from reality, you don't remember it. :-)

Comment author: bigjeff5 01 February 2011 05:28:38AM 0 points [-]

Yep :)