paper-machine comments on Mind Projection Fallacy - Less Wrong

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Comment author: shminux 30 July 2012 11:44:14PM *  3 points [-]

Really what where doing is looking at features such as hip ratio, symmetry, eye color and various attributes like that and that's what creates the sense of attractiveness. These are all things that the alien could measure and combine also.

Yes, this would define "looks attractive to a certain subset of humans" (i.e. those who find this set of features attractive). However, there is no such thing as "looks attractive to all humans and aliens", which is what Woman.sexiness is supposed to represent.

Comment author: dbc 31 July 2012 01:07:56AM 0 points [-]

This comment was sitting at -2 when I saw it, which makes me think that maybe I don't understand Eliezer's point. I thought the OP was making the point that when we talk about something being "attractive" or "moral" or maybe even "sapient", we project facts about our minds into the real world. "Attractive" really means "attractive to humans", and if we forget this fact, we can end up inadvertently drawing wrong conclusions about the world. If that's wrong, then what was this post actually about?

Comment author: [deleted] 31 July 2012 05:15:20AM 0 points [-]

It may have just been serial downvoting from people who dislike shminux.

Comment author: shminux 31 July 2012 05:33:16AM 0 points [-]

Heck, I dislike him myself.

Comment author: [deleted] 31 July 2012 05:34:25AM -1 points [-]

Papermachine isn't much to write home about either.

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