orthonormal comments on Qualitatively Confused - Less Wrong

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Comment author: orthonormal 04 January 2011 04:48:26PM 0 points [-]

What comes to mind is the Alan Sokal hoax and the editors who were completely taken in by it; the subject matter was this sort of anti-realism.

Comment author: David_Gerard 04 January 2011 04:53:49PM *  1 point [-]

Yes, because Sokal didn't achieve anything actually noteworthy. He deliberately chose a very bad and ill-regarded journal (not even peer-reviewed) to hoax. Don't believe the hype.

Postmodernism contains stupendous quantities of cluelessness, introspection and bullshit, it's true. However, it's not a useless field and saying trivially stupid things is not "archetypal" any more than being a string theorist requires the personal abuse skills of Lubos Motl. Comparing the worst of the field you don't like to the best of your own field remains fallacious.

Comment author: NancyLebovitz 04 January 2011 05:00:16PM 0 points [-]

Sokal also revealed the hoax as soon as his piece was published. He didn't allow time for other people in the field to notice it.

Comment author: orthonormal 04 January 2011 05:06:12PM 1 point [-]

Didn't know that. Fair enough.

Comment author: David_Gerard 04 January 2011 05:21:26PM 1 point [-]

To be fair to Sokal, he didn't make such a huge fuss about it either; it was a small prank on his part, just having fun with people who were being silly. The problem is that the story resonates ("Sokal hoax" ~= "slays dragon of stupidity") in ways that aren't quite true.