simplicio comments on Reductionism - Less Wrong

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Comment author: timtyler 15 August 2010 07:30:58PM *  0 points [-]

This discusssion is about the term "reductionism" - which is obviously some kind of philosophy about "reducing" things - but the cited definitions differ on the details of exactly what the term means.

The first meaning just states the obvious, IMO. Also, other terms have that kind of nonsense covered. There is no need to overload the perfectly useful and good term "reductionism" with something that is only useful for the refutation of nonsense. It just causes the type of mix-up that you see in this thread.

Comment author: simplicio 15 August 2010 07:33:54PM 0 points [-]

I understand, I just don't get why you object to reductionism as exemplified by the second definition. It seems to me a fairly reasonable philosophical position.

Comment author: timtyler 15 August 2010 07:42:02PM *  0 points [-]

I object to that terminology because it overloads a useful term which is used for something else without having a good excuse for doing so. Call the idea that invisible pixies push atoms around "irreducibility" - or something else - anything!

IMO, "Reductionism" and "Holism" should be reserved for the Hofstadter-favoured sense of those words - or you have a terminological mess:

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Comment author: simplicio 15 August 2010 08:03:40PM 1 point [-]

Oh, I see. Thanks for clarifying.