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40 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 16 March 2008 06:26AM

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Comment author: Aaron_Boyden 16 March 2008 08:26:01AM 5 points [-]

One minor quibble; how do we know there is any most basic level?

Comment author: RafeFurst 07 March 2010 04:58:35PM 9 points [-]

Agreed. Why would we believe a quark is not "emergent"? Could be turtles all the way down....

Comment author: DanielLC 29 February 2012 05:52:19AM 19 points [-]

Levels are an attribute of the map. The territory only has one level. Its only level is the most basic one.

Let's consider a fractal. The Mandelbrot set can be made by taking the union of infinitely many iterations. You could think of each additional iteration as a better map. That being said, either a point is in the Mandelbrot set or it is not. The set itself only has one level.

Comment author: [deleted] 29 February 2012 11:06:27AM *  0 points [-]

Interesting analogy!

Comment author: potato 08 June 2012 11:52:41PM 1 point [-]

Because things happen, if there was no most basic level, figuring out what happens would be an infinite recursion with no base case. Not even the universe's computation could find the answer.