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Comment author: Ian_C. 19 March 2008 07:41:20AM 0 points [-]

Frank Hirsch: "You are saying that because it seems to you inside your mind that you had freedom of choice, it must automagically be so?"

I believe the mind is not magical or holy, but a natural occurrence. Therefore, to me, introspection is not automatically an invalid way of gathering knowledge.

'How do you propose to lend credibility to your central tenet "If you seem to have free will, then you have free will"?'

I'm not deducing (potentially wrongly) from some internal observation that I have free will. The knowledge that I chose is not a conclusion, it is a memory.

If you introspect on yourself making a decision, the process is not (as you would expect): consideration (of pros and cons) -> decision -> option selected. It is in fact: consideration -> 'will' yourself to decide -> knowledge of option chosen + memory of having chosen it. The knowledge that you chose is not worked out, it is just given to you directly. So their is no scope for you to err.

"Also, how will you go and physically explain this free will thing? All things we know are either deterministic or random."

I don't have a physical explanation, just some observations.