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Comment author: Caledonian2 28 March 2008 11:42:42PM 6 points [-]

Yes, I want to know," said Brennan. "Know what, exactly?" whispered the figure. Brennan's face scrunched up in concentration, trying to visualize the game to its end, and hoping he hadn't blown it already; until finally he fell back on the first and last resort, which is the truth: "It doesn't matter," said Brennan, "the answer is still yes."

If you don't care what you know, as long as you know it, you'd be better off studying theology. I have some crystals and tarot cards you'll probably want to purchase, too.

Comment author: Auroch 30 December 2010 09:36:51PM 13 points [-]

That isn't "knowing" something. That's believing it.

Comment author: JoshuaZ 30 December 2010 09:43:14PM *  3 points [-]

Not necessarily. I know a large amount of halachah (Orthodox Jewish law). I don't believe any of it. I also know a smaller amount of Catholic theology. I don't believe any of that either. Prioritization still makes sense. These really aren't great things to know much about if one wants any sort of real understanding.

Comment author: rocurley 10 August 2011 07:22:00PM 3 points [-]

You know the fact "the content of the halachah is _" (I don't know what the halachah says). However, you do not know "the content of the halachah is true", because that is a falsehood. If it were costless, I would choose to know the former, but not the latter.

Comment author: pnrjulius 09 April 2012 05:29:03AM 1 point [-]

But you CAN'T know the latter, not on the standard theory of knowledge as "justified true belief". You'd have belief, but probably not justified and surely not true.

Comment author: gwern 04 July 2013 03:22:39AM 1 point [-]

That hasn't been 'standard' since Gettier, I think.

Comment author: Keller 05 December 2013 09:44:52PM 0 points [-]

Sadly, people have been trying to prop up that rotting corpse ever since. Goldman is a decent example.