Caledonian2 comments on Angry Atoms - Less Wrong

30 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 31 March 2008 12:28AM

You are viewing a comment permalink. View the original post to see all comments and the full post content.

Comments (60)

Sort By: Old

You are viewing a single comment's thread.

Comment author: Caledonian2 31 March 2008 12:51:34PM 0 points [-]

An algorithm can exist even without physics. It's math.

No. Math does not exist without physics.

You could create an ai that has behavior similar to anger, and displays intention, but having subjective experience is another matter. Explaining subjective experience in terms of quarks is rather like trying to explain quantum mechanics in terms of aerodynamics.

So you're denying that the 'subjective' is a subset of the 'objective', categorically? Well, that explains why we can't convince you. You cannot be convinced of that which you have already rejected axiomatically.

But if you already accept that a system can be made to act in such a way that it appears to be 'angry', you've already accepted all of the premises needed to understand how our 'subjective experiences' arise from physical processes. It's just that you've rejected the conclusion outright.