skepsci comments on GAZP vs. GLUT - Less Wrong

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Comment author: [deleted] 06 February 2012 11:51:42AM 4 points [-]

Unless you think it's possible to program a conscious being in Haskell."

Ahemhem. Haskell is as fine a turing complete language; we just like to have our side effects explicit!

Also, can we just conclude that "consciousness" is the leakiest of surface generalizations ever? If I one day get the cog-psy skills I am going to run a stack-trace on what makes us say "consciousness" without knowing diddy about what it is.

As a budding AI researcher, I am frankly offended by philosophers pretending to be wise like that. No. There is no such thing as "consciousness" because it is not even a bucket to put things in. It's metal shreds. You are a some sort of self-introspective algorithm implemented on a biochemical computing substrate, so let's make the blankness of our maps self-evident by calling it "magic" or something.

Comment author: skepsci 13 February 2012 11:05:32AM 0 points [-]

Glaring redundancy aside, isn't "self-introspective" just as intensionally valid or void as "conscious"?

Comment author: [deleted] 20 February 2012 06:02:24PM 0 points [-]

Yes, probably. It is a really good idea to taboo any and all of "conscious," "self-<anything>," "introspective," "thinking," and so on when doing AI work, or so I heard.