Oscar_Cunningham comments on GAZP vs. GLUT - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Monkeymind 16 May 2012 07:42:35PM *  1 point [-]

How can you be 100% confident that a look up table has zero consciousness when you don't even know for sure what consciousness is?

Why not just define consciousness in a rational, unambiguous, non-contradictory way and then use it consistently throughout. If we are talking thought experiments here, it is up to us to make assumption(s) in our hypothesis. I don't recall EY giving HIS definition of consciousness for his thought experiment.

However, if the GLUT behaves exactly like a human, and humans are conscious, then by definition the GLUT is conscious, whatever that means.

Comment author: Oscar_Cunningham 16 May 2012 08:47:30PM 1 point [-]

However, if the GLUT behaves exactly like a human, and humans are conscious, then by definition the GLUT is conscious, whatever that means.

This seems to exactly contradict your first paragraph. What if I define "conscious" as "made of cells"?

Comment author: Monkeymind 17 May 2012 01:28:54PM 0 points [-]

If you don't know for sure what consciousness is, you define it as best you can, and proceed forward to see if your hypothesis is rational and that the theory is possible. If you define conscious as made of cells, then everyone knows right away a GLUT is not conscious (that is, if it is not made of cells) by YOUR def. and tells you, you are being irrational, please go back to the drawing board!