Open Letter to MIRI + Tons of Interesting Discussion

Elliot Temple

I hunted around your website until I found an actual summary of Popper's thinking in straightforward language.

Until I found that I had not seen you actually provide clear text like this, and I wanted to exhort you to write an entire sequence in language with that flavor: clean and clear and lacking in citation. The sequence should be about what "induction" is, and why you think other people believed something about it (even if not perhaps by that old fashioned name), and why you think those beliefs are connected to reliably predictable failures to achieve their goals via cognitively mediated processes.

I feel like maaaybe you are writing a lot about things you have pointers to, but not things that you have held in your hands, used skillfully, and made truly a part of you? Or maybe you are much much smarter and better read than me, so all your jargon makes sense to you and I'm just too ignorant to parse it.

My hope is that you can dereference your pointers and bring all the ideas and arguments into a single document, and clean it up and write it so that someone who had never heard of Popper would think you are really smart for having had all these ideas yourself.

Then you could push one small chapter from this document at a time out into the world (thereby tricking people into reading something piece by piece that they might have skipped if they saw how big it was going to be up front) and then after 10 chapters like this it will turn out that you're a genius and everyone else was wrong and by teaching people to think good you'll have saved the world.

I like people who try to save the world, because it makes me marginally less hopeless, and less in need of palliative cynicism :-)

I feel like maaaybe you are writing a lot about things you have pointers to, but not things that you have held in your hands, used skillfully, and made truly a part of you?

Why did you go by feelings on this? You could have done some research and found out some things. Critical-Rationalism, Objectivism, Taking-Children-Seriously, Paths-Forward, Yes/No Philosophy, Autonomous Relationships, and other ideas are not things you can hold at arm's length if you take them seriously. These ideas change your life if you take them seriously, as curi has done. He l... (read more)

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there already exist documents of a variety of lengths, both collections and single. you're coming into the middle of a discussion and seemingly haven't read much of it and haven't asked for specifically what you want. and then, with almost no knowledge of my intellectual history, accomplishments, works, etc, things-already-tried, etc, you try to give me standard advice that i've heard a million times before. that would be ok as a starting point if it were only the starting point, but i fear it's going to more or less be the ending point too. it sounds like you want me to rewrite material from DD and KP's books? http://fallibleideas.com/books#deutsch Why would me rewriting the same things get a different outcome than the existing literature? what is the purpose? and how do you expect me to write a one-size-fits-all document when LW has no canonical positions written out – everyone just has their own different ideas? and why are zero people at LW familiar enough to answer well known literature in their field. fine if you aren't an expert, but why does this community seem to have no experts who can speak to these issues without first requesting summary documents of the books they don't want to read? what knowledge do you have? what are you looking for in talking with me? what values are you seeking and offering? [...] dishonesty is counter-productive and self-destructive. if you wish to change my mind about this, you'll have to address Objectivism and a few other things. [...] i've made things multiple times. here's one: http://fallibleideas.com there are difficulties such as people not wanting to think, learn, or truth-seek – especially when some of their biases are challenged. it's hard to tell people about ideas this different than what they're used to. one basically can't teach people who don't want to learn something. creating more material won't change that. there are hard problems here. you could learn philosophy and help, or learn philosophy and disa

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