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Comment author: Perplexed 03 February 2011 10:11:32PM 0 points [-]

They strike me as useful enough to practicing philosophers (to the extent that they are correct, that is!). But it appears that you are looking for something more immediately useful to ordinary people.

Sorry. Just ain't going to happen. But you did get something useful from that list. The realization that you are probably not cut out to be a philosopher (at least not in the English-speaking world).

Comment author: bigjeff5 03 February 2011 11:29:09PM 1 point [-]

It just seems to me that philosophy itself, as a separate discipline, isn't particularly useful for anything outside of philosophy.

Perhaps that is a little clearer.

And actually I think I would be pretty good at philosophy - I love to argue, and often quite accidentally take absolutely useless positions. ;) (I'm kidding! Sort of.)

Comment author: Perplexed 04 February 2011 01:49:37AM 9 points [-]

Everytime a philosopher does something useful outside philosophy, they kick him out of the philosopher's guild, name a new scientific or mathematical discipline after him, and make him work for a living as a scientist or mathematician. (I'm kidding too! Sort of.)

The real reason to knock philosophy as a discipline is that when they finally do solve a problem, and the solution is actually useful (as with, believe-it-or-not, that black raven / red herring thing), most philosophers don't accept the solution, even though the solution is in use out there in the real world (if AI research counts as the real world).