Eliezer_Yudkowsky comments on If Many-Worlds Had Come First - Less Wrong

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Comment author: shminux 10 February 2013 09:36:21PM 6 points [-]

Ignoring your unhelpful sarcastic derision... You should know better, really.

Take an EPR experiment with spatially separated observers A and B. If A measures a state of a singlet and the world is split into Aup and Adown, when does B split in this world, according to MWI?

In RQM, it does not until it measures its own half of the singlet, which can be before of after A in a given frame. Its model of A is a superposition until A and B meet up and compare results (another interaction). The outcome depends on whether A actually measured anything and if so, in which basis. None of this is known until A and B interact.

Comment author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 10 February 2013 10:00:56PM 2 points [-]

I confess I'm not quite clear on your question. Local processes proceed locally with invariant states of distant entanglement. Just suppose that the global wavefunction is an objective fact which entails all of RQM's statements via the obvious truth-condition, and there you go.

Comment author: whowhowho 10 February 2013 10:06:29PM *  0 points [-]

Just suppose that the global wavefunction is an objective fact

Tell me what the basis is, and where it comes from, and I will...

Comment author: shminux 11 February 2013 03:02:44AM 6 points [-]

I confess I'm not quite clear on your question.

I confess I'm not quite clear on your answer.

Local processes proceed locally with invariant states of distant entanglement.

Not sure what this means, at least not past "local processes proceed locally", which is certainly uncontroversial, if you mean to say that interaction is limited to light speed.

Just suppose that the global wavefunction is an objective fact

"an objective fact"? As in a map from something to C? If so, what is that something? Some branching multiverse? Or what do you mean by an objective fact?

which entails all of RQM's statements via the obvious truth-condition

You lost me here, sorry.