Caledonian2 comments on Timeless Beauty - Less Wrong

10 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 28 May 2008 04:32AM

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Comment author: Caledonian2 28 May 2008 06:44:01PM 0 points [-]

Even if having an experience requires more than a single instant

You don't get it. Experiences aren't things that require time to occur - they ARE the moments of time.

and a brain could arise and persist even for a full second, with sufficient luck, within a heat dead universe

Irrelevant. The algorithm does not depend on the nature of the system that manifests it.

I am unable to understand why you can't understand this incredibly simple point. Do you imagine that the nature of the implementing hardware changes the behavior of an algorithm? Do you think a program run on a 'virtual' computer behaves differently than one run on an equivalent 'real' computer?

If I run a Java program that implements Conway's Game of Life, do you think it will behave any differently when I encode a computational system in, let's say, a hive of bees, and use it to implement that program?

Comment author: TheAncientGeek 28 April 2014 06:42:05PM 0 points [-]

You don't have any evidence that conscious experience supervenes on objectively instantaneous moments.

You don't have any evidence that conscious experience supervenes on algorithms rather than underlying physical activity.

The two claims are incompatible, since alalgorithms take some time to run.