*blinks*

Robin, how should I choose who to trust, if not by seeing their competence displayed in handling other issues? Yes, the algorithm is incestuous, but what's your alternative that you think works better in real life? E.g., your disagreement case studies with Cutler?

Tribal affiliation forces should logically operate to bind me far more strongly to people who think AGI is possible, than to people who think consciousness is non-mysterious. The former are my friends; I go with them to conferences; some of them pay my rent. But I lost respect for Pinker more than Dennett, because of what I thought their respective opinions implied about their general competence.