jimrandomh comments on No, Really, I've Deceived Myself - Less Wrong

55 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 04 March 2009 11:29PM

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Comment author: jimrandomh 05 March 2009 02:06:51AM 4 points [-]

Many people cannot distinguish between levels of indirection. To them, "I believe X" and "X" are the same thing, and therefore, reasons why it is beneficial to believe X are also reasons why X is true. I think this, rather than any sort of deliberate self deception, is what you have observed.

Comment author: Liron 05 March 2009 02:32:17AM 1 point [-]

I expect it is an easy distinction for most people whom Eliezer describes as "highly intelligent".

Comment author: Ali 05 March 2009 08:30:50AM 2 points [-]

It depends on how seriously they took the conversation.

I completely agree with Jim, the difference between, "I believe God exist" and "God exist" is a debate in itself

I also think that Eliezer should have brought up this point to her attention to really get the response she "believes in"

For many people saying "I believe God exists" is a stronger proposition than "I know God exist"

Comment author: MichaelHoward 05 March 2009 01:44:54PM 3 points [-]

If it's a distinction they'd rather not think about, I wouldn't bet on it. If you don't put some work into preventing it, more intelligence can just mean cleverer defences for your irrational beliefs.

Comment author: pwno 06 March 2009 04:13:21AM 1 point [-]

How can more intelligence lead to be more likely to defend your irrational beliefs?

Comment author: Vladimir_Nesov 06 March 2009 02:52:32PM *  9 points [-]

How can more intelligence lead to be more likely to defend your irrational beliefs?

See Positive Bias: Look Into the Dark and Knowing About Biases Can Hurt People.