JulianMorrison comments on Heading Toward Morality - Less Wrong

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Comment author: JulianMorrison 21 June 2008 12:46:12AM 1 point [-]

Hmm, I was talking about values. I made a type error when I said "reason to prefer". "Reason" was equivocating cause and justification. I'll try to clean up what I meant to ask.

Here goes: Are there morally justified terminal (not instrumental) values, that don't causally root in the evolutionary history of value instincts? Does morality, ultimately, serve value axioms that are arbitrary and out-of-scope for moral analysis?

Non-example: "happiness" is a reinforcement signal in our wetware. A lot has been said about the ethics of happiness, but in the end they're describing a thing which might not even exist in a creature with a different evolutionary path.

Hmm. This word-twisting smells of black box. What am I not opening?