Ian_C. comments on Will As Thou Wilt - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Ian_C. 07 July 2008 11:30:17AM 1 point [-]

I read it as "You can consciously choose your actions, but your ultimate reasons will always be subconscious and unchangeable."

I disagree with this. Many of our conscious choices are driven by subconscious desires, but not all. We do have veto power. What's more, through conscious repetition we can reprogram the subconscious and change how we feel about things, even on a very deep level.

Comment author: RogerG 25 August 2012 07:08:14PM 0 points [-]

Do we 'choose' to exercise our veto power? If so, then is there a reason for this choice? Follow the thought chain and it will become apparent that even our choice to veto emanates from our unconscious. There is no escape. And no room for free-will.