Joshua_Fox comments on The Gift We Give To Tomorrow - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Joshua_Fox 17 July 2008 09:38:53AM 8 points [-]

If you replace "love" in this article with "theistic spirituality" -- another aspect of the human psychology which many, if not most, humans consider deeply important and beautiful -- and likewise replace mutatis mutandis other parts of the dialog, would it not just as well argue for the propagation of religion to our descendants?

Comment author: DanielLC 14 January 2012 02:30:50AM 3 points [-]

If you value love, then you would value passing it on. This equally applies to theistic spirituality, or torture for that matter.

Comment author: wedrifid 14 January 2012 03:30:00AM *  0 points [-]

If you value love, then you would value passing it on.

That does not seem to follow. If I value love why can't I be entirely selfish with respect to it? I might prefer to get more love than everyone else!

Comment author: DanielLC 14 January 2012 05:24:15AM 4 points [-]

If you are selfish in respect to it, that means that you value yourself having love.

When I say "value love", I mean prefer a universe with love to one without.

Comment author: Luke_A_Somers 05 July 2012 02:02:38PM 0 points [-]

Hoarding it is going to be especially counterproductive in that case.

Comment author: DaFranker 23 August 2012 12:36:08PM 0 points [-]

Not necessarily, depending on the boundaries you trace on the concept "Love". It is perfectly reasonable that a mind would value itself loving other things or minds, but nothing else. This would mean that whether other things love said mind is irrelevant to the mind in question.

Comment author: RichardKennaway 05 July 2012 02:17:52PM 1 point [-]

would it not just as well argue for the propagation of religion to our descendants?

Yes, but only to someone who believes the religion.

Someone who disbelieves the religion but nonetheless finds something valuable in "spirituality", should try to find that thing elsewhere rather than collude in at best a noble lie.