Jayson_Virissimo comments on Math is Subjunctively Objective - Less Wrong

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Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 01 January 2013 04:28:27AM *  1 point [-]

How would the world look different on each of those hypotheses? (Can you please taboo "fundamental" and "exists," too?)

Pythagorean theorem clearly seems to be a property of the real world, as does pi, and geometry in general.

You're confusing the map and the territory here. The Pythagorean theorem and pi are both mathematical features that fall out of a particular model of the world, namely Euclidean geometry, which is an inaccurate model for at least two historically major reasons (the Earth not being flat and relativity).

Comment author: Jayson_Virissimo 01 January 2013 05:00:12AM 0 points [-]

The Pythagorean theorem and pi are both mathematical features that fall out of a particular model of the world, namely Euclidean geometry, which is an inaccurate model for at least two historically major reasons (the Earth not being flat and relativity).

How does "the Earth not being flat" make Euclidean geometry inaccurate?

Comment author: Qiaochu_Yuan 01 January 2013 05:08:29AM 1 point [-]

If you draw a big enough right triangle on the Earth, it will visibly fail to satisfy the Pythagorean theorem. The geometry of the Earth is approximately spherical geometry, not Euclidean geometry.

Comment author: VAuroch 24 November 2013 10:23:48AM 0 points [-]

Euclidean geometry is a set of principles and conclusions for flat space. That Earth is not flat in no way makes Euclidean geometry inaccurate.