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Larry_D'Anna comments on The Cartoon Guide to Löb's Theorem - Less Wrong

12 Post author: Eliezer_Yudkowsky 17 August 2008 08:35PM

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Comment author: Larry_D'Anna 18 August 2008 05:09:54PM 1 point [-]

Psy-Kosh: No that isn't the problem. If there is a proof that 1=2, then 1=2. If there isn't, then 1=2. Either way 1=2. The problem is the mixing of meta-levels / inappropriate use of the deduction theorem / tacit assumption that ◻a -> ◻b is the same as "a -> b".

Sebastian Hagen: no ◻X is PA |- "X". My best guess as to what Eliezer meant by "interpret the smiley face as saying.." is that he meant to interpret the cartoonproof as a proof from the assumption "(◻C -> C)" to the conclusion "C", rather than a proof from "◻(◻C -> C)" to "◻C".