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Comment author: Eugine_Nier 22 April 2011 01:26:11AM 7 points [-]

So basically God is a sufficiently advanced alien.

Comment author: JohnH 22 April 2011 01:39:27AM 1 point [-]

Basically yes, though we are of the same species as him. Not that being the same species makes him any less of an alien as in the Pearl of Great Price does say that there are other worlds on which humans live. The D&C also basically says there are non-human intelligent aliens out there as well.

Comment author: Alicorn 22 April 2011 02:18:08AM *  4 points [-]

The D&C also basically says there are non-human intelligent aliens out there as well.

Do they report to a different deity, so they match, or do they share ours?

(My Mormon friends are mostly sick of talking to me about religion. I congratulate you on being noncombative and civil here.)

Comment author: JohnH 22 April 2011 02:31:06AM 1 point [-]

The specific passage is in reference to the strange creatures in Revelation where the creatures do in fact report to our deity. There may be others that do not, if there are such information has not be revealed as of yet, though all things will eventually be revealed so I suppose we will eventually find out in some way, it just might not be until the millennium.

Comment author: badger 25 April 2011 04:19:40PM 3 points [-]

Do you know the reference for that? A quick Google search didn't turn up anything.

Growing up in the church, I took it as given that there were people growing up on other worlds, but this is the first time I've heard of non-human intelligent beings.

Comment author: JohnH 25 April 2011 06:01:32PM 1 point [-]

Revelation 4:6-9 - is where the beasts or creatures are described D&C 77:2-4 - is where it says they are both figurative as well as literal beasts or creatures.

Comment author: badger 25 April 2011 04:30:43PM 2 points [-]

This is non-standard, but not uncommon. My father-in-law will readily say he believes in a non-omniscient, non-omnipotent, naturalistic god.

The other extreme – everything is supernatural – is also present in LDS theology. All matter is composed of intelligence and hence under God's command because it recognizes his authority.